So EverQuest Next...

[scaramoosh]

What are your thoughts now it's been shown off? http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7tcHJ4Xq0Glc8vVhOrXt4g

Personally I think it looks like the most innovative MMO in years, even though it looks a lot like Minecraft meets GW2 meets firefall. It's something new for the space and it's quite exciting, I cannot lie.. it's more exciting than anything else atm at least.

HOWEVER!

It isn't EverQuest and I don't know why they called it that other than for marketing. All the concept art looks like it was taken from Warcraft rather than EverQuest and the music is horribly generic, it could have come from any of the Elder Scrolls games and it wouldn't have seemed out of place.


If they called it something else and EverQuest 3 was coming, then I could be excited for it, however know it's EverQuest 3..... I'm a bit bitter.

[xinux]

EverQuest Next Previews: The Future of the MMORPG Lies in Norrath
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game ... rrath.html

And Beta signup is up.
https://www.everquestnext.com/

EverQuest Next - Ashfang and Feerot Ruins Zone Flythroughs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8utpsnC_oM

EverQuest Next - Large Scale Destruction Tech Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyEsZRifwrQ

EverQuest Next - Landmark Building Tech Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gvSRXZZwec

EverQuest Next - Gameplay Combat Tech Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl3buyb3JAA

[scaramoosh]

Being in the EU it's a bit annoying because it only allows you to sign up with a new account :\ I have been in every single SOE family and friends beta, I mean I wanna sign up with that account as it has to mean something lol. I hope what they showed wasn't EQN and just the Landmark thing and when they show EQN it'll be much more like EQ.

I wanna love the game for voxels and being so innovative in the AAA MMO space at least... however I wanna hate it because it's not EverQuest, at least what they showed.

[John Adams]

I agree somewhat. The character models in those clips are very WoW-ish, with their over-exaggerated shoulders. That's long over-done and needs to be put back in the box. IMO, it's time for a little more realistic "Player Characters". Something without size 42 tits or bulging muscles and perfect hair. How about a game with normal people in it? Or a fat dude line-backer tank? Or a dorky chick with glasses who is a wiz with spells (pun intended).

I've been over MMOs since WoW vs EQ2 in 2006 or so, so aside from sparkly particles and shaders, I'm not sure how this is the next best thing ever. Although in it's current state as-is, it's probably still better than Vanguard was at release And I LOVED Vanguard. Still hoping to make an emu someday

[xinux]

EverQuest Next Worldwide Debut Characters and Environment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh_0neHhR0k

[xinux]

EverQuest Next Worldwide Debut: Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nswWwgLEw

EverQuest Next Worldwide Debut: Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDq2a3zy_6M

[scaramoosh]

Yeah I haven't been into MMOs since around 2005.

2001/2002 - Luclin and PoP killed EverQuest for me.
2004 - BFRs killed Planetside.
2005 - NGE killed what little hope I had left for SWG and instant travel to battlegrounds killed world PVP in WoW.
2005/06 - Capital Ships ruined EVE Online (for me personally)

So I haven't played anything since... I've tried every MMO under the sun since, however nothing has been any good.


I quit EQ2 in December 2004 when my monthly sub ran out and ditched it for WoW because that's where all my friends were going. I just remember WoW being the most polished MMO ever, it felt perfect at the time, like much better than any MMO ever in terms of polish and playability from launch. I was so excited for EQ2 but SOE released it half finished with so many things missing, I loved it in beta because there was only one server, the game had so much potential and I thought at the time SOE wouldn't release it in that state, sadly though I learnt not to trust SOE with EQ2.

They released with like 40 odd servers and by December most of them were dead, you couldn't find groups for **** and it killed the game because the fun of it was grouping. It's so depressing playing an MMO that feels dead, I have no idea why they made more than one server per region, all they had to do was clone the zones over and over again like beta.

I really loved it in beta, I had such a blast, just funny how quickly it changed after launch.

[John Adams]

See, my EQ2 experience was totally different. I ran a guild in EQ, and 90% of my guild came to EQ2. While we were never a raiding force, we were a band of real close friends who stomped around the Guk server for almost 2 years. What >>I<< saw was a server filled with soloists. No one wanted to group. No one wanted to guild/raid (that wasn't already EQ1 hardcore me-first raiders). So our little guild never got more than 10 regular players after most of my guildies became adults and got jobs, wives and babies

I >>loved<< the original concept EQ2. The good vs evil; the original segregation of the two. That you couldn't even understand their languages until you learned it (though that may have only been in Beta, I do not recall). SOE as a CORPORATION who is in this business to make money, couldn't compete with the soft, carebear, Disneyesqueness of World of Warcraft. I played WoW, and thought while polished, it was for people who only desired instant gratification. Zero effort, to do anything. Nothing challenging (until you got to raiding levels).

I hate mindless "grinding". I got that from EQ1. In the newer MMOs (now almost 10 years old!!) I expected something a little more... and EQ2 (and EVE, and even Vanguard later) provided it. WoW was never a game for me. Too cartoony. Not immersive. Never really felt I was doing anything but looking at hot chicks with big knockers in bloated over-sized armor pieces.

Which is why I am here, doing what I'm doing... to give people (like me) an option to run any kind of EQ2 server we wish.. old school, completely custom, or SOE knock-off. I love EQ2 as a game, mechanics, and imagery. Just beautiful.

[Kinshi]

heheh I had to LOL a bit at the OP

See I am an old, avid EQ (original) player...and as a EQ player I felt the SAME way about EVERQUEST II..that EQ2 was some other game with an EQ skin put on it. I recall seeing the EQ 2 demos at Fan Faire before launch, and then played at launch.and well tbh...I quit playing before I even got out of Freeport and went back to old EQ as it was nothing at all like the EQ I knew.

The main thing that got me was the visuals (strongly dislikes the character models, and the ones that came later didn't make it much better and I feel SOE did a poor job of concealing zone boundaries, thus making me feel aware I was in a box, where in old EQ they did a real good job of blending zone boundaries with the terrain, making "invisible walls" uncommon.

TBh still sorta feel that way....and that Vanguard:Saga of Heroes is the REAL EQ II, and is where the "Vision(tm)" came home to roost.

As such I can understand how EQ 2 loyalists feel about EQN..you are experiencing the same thing us old EQ'er's felt when EQ2 showed up ..that "this isn't EQ at all!

[scaramoosh]

See I liked EverQuest, I played until PoP, I was only like 14 at the time and had to steal my Mums CC lol, it felt like this far away world I could be whoever I wanted in it. EQ felt like a world which EQ2 never did, even though they both had loading screens, EQ did it in a HL like way where it still kept you in the world and didn't warp you to some location like EQ2 did. I quit MMOs for a year after PoP, I tried DAOC but I thought it was horrible, people go on about it now but it felt like you were controlling a brick on ice and the world was so zoned up that again it felt fake.

EQ2 though just blew me away in alpha and beta and I got into the first family and friends beta of it. I just made friends and grouped up constantly in it, I loved how you could walk up to people and just talk to them, which MMOs lack now,people just ignore you...

The music was just genius in EQ2 and how it had graphics that could rival HL2, we haven't had an MMO since that could rival a SP game.

I agree though the Character models in EQ2 sucked, I remember they ruined them in beta by adding weird acne skin and making human females look like they were on drugs.... I don't get it though cause the races looked great in alpha, so did the armour, then it all changed in beta and launch :\


WoW gets a bad rap, it was amazing back in the day, sadly it's been butchered long since then... like most MMOs though to be fair.

[John Adams]

I loved how you could walk up to people and just talk to them, which MMOs lack now,people just ignore you...

That's because every in-game player now is a bot farming gold or levels to be sold for real money on some auction site. Entrepreneurs, they are!

Honestly, the anti-social social networking in MMOs is indeed what killed it for me, too. When I played EQ, it was okay to Roleplay -- never cool, but okay and I loved that. But like every other gathering of souls, like like in real-life, clique's form and people are considered outcasts, mocked, ridiculed, bullied, and commit /delete's because they just can't take it anymore!!11/

anyway... good topic. Thanks *moosh

[KhaineGB]

Being in the EU it's a bit annoying because it only allows you to sign up with a new account :\ I have been in every single SOE family and friends beta, I mean I wanna sign up with that account as it has to mean something lol. I hope what they showed wasn't EQN and just the Landmark thing and when they show EQN it'll be much more like EQ.

I'm in the UK, but I have a station/SOE account.

So I cheated. I logged into their beta signup page with a US VPN on my Galaxy Note 2 and hit sign-up.

[JCL]

See, my EQ2 experience was totally different. I ran a guild in EQ, and 90% of my guild came to EQ2. While we were never a raiding force, we were a band of real close friends who stomped around the Guk server for almost 2 years. What >>I<< saw was a server filled with soloists. No one wanted to group. No one wanted to guild/raid (that wasn't already EQ1 hardcore me-first raiders). So our little guild never got more than 10 regular players after most of my guildies became adults and got jobs, wives and babies

I >>loved<< the original concept EQ2. The good vs evil; the original segregation of the two. That you couldn't even understand their languages until you learned it (though that may have only been in Beta, I do not recall). SOE as a CORPORATION who is in this business to make money, couldn't compete with the soft, carebear, Disneyesqueness of World of Warcraft. I played WoW, and thought while polished, it was for people who only desired instant gratification. Zero effort, to do anything. Nothing challenging (until you got to raiding levels).

I hate mindless "grinding". I got that from EQ1. In the newer MMOs (now almost 10 years old!!) I expected something a little more... and EQ2 (and EVE, and even Vanguard later) provided it. WoW was never a game for me. Too cartoony. Not immersive. Never really felt I was doing anything but looking at hot chicks with big knockers in bloated over-sized armor pieces.

Which is why I am here, doing what I'm doing... to give people (like me) an option to run any kind of EQ2 server we wish.. old school, completely custom, or SOE knock-off. I love EQ2 as a game, mechanics, and imagery. Just beautiful.

While I saw EQ a few times I never played until EQ2. I also tried WoW and what you say about it is similar to how I feel about it. So I stuck with EQ2, I started to get into raiding and worked my way to a guild that was just starting out. We ended up becoming one of the top raiding guilds (not the best, but within the top) on the server. We could clear a lot of raids, including some of the contested.

Of course now it has gone F2P which ruined the game IMO. You took the game once dedicated to grouping and working for gear and basically say: You want to look cool? Buy some "appearance gear". Want a mount? Buy one. I had to work for my cool gear when I started, and it was fulfilling! To get a mount I had to save up money or have my guild help. It was friends working with friends.

So basically take it likes this: EQ Next is a new MMO with the EverQuest title on it to get you to play. It will likely have nothing to do with EQ and will likely be F2P. And if that happens it probably won't catch my attention as well as others.