John Adams wrote:The true psychology behind "I don't have no programming skillz or I'd help" really means "I'll wait for you to do all the work so I can play". Anyone can learn, anything... if they want to. Not learning means they don't want to, simple as that.

You are exactly right. I had/have very little to no knowledge on this project, C++, C#, and databases. I had tinkered with EQ1. I also did not show up here expecting to be a player. Wasn't sure I would land the gig, but hey you never know until you try. So for me I want to learn the development side.

John Adams wrote:Cynnar is a shining example of "motivated". He has done more for this project than most have, ever, aside from the devs. And, he's never burned out or quit. If only we had a dozen Cynnars I also see Plague is dominating the forums, learning. Bravo to both.

Thanks John it means a lot coming from a founding father. I believe some time back I stopped thinking "I'm just the outsider trying to help you guys out to OK so I'm not the outsider I'm part of the family and this is our project." So I'm committed. Like I told Jabantiz "I'm here till you kick me out."

John Adams wrote:The true psychology behind "I don't have no programming skillz or I'd help" really means "I'll wait for you to do all the work so I can play". Anyone can learn, anything... if they want to. Not learning means they don't want to, simple as that.

Cynnar is a shining example of "motivated". He has done more for this project than most have, ever, aside from the devs. And, he's never burned out or quit. If only we had a dozen Cynnars I also see Plague is dominating the forums, learning. Bravo to both.

You have to accept that some people are just too dumb,I've tried, just like learning a second language, it just doesn't go in... I wish it did, it saddens me that I'm dumb... but I am :\ So now I just live my life like Al Bundy and wait to die... though I'd really love an EQ2 Classic server since I have a lot of memories with that old game. Though mine were mainly in the beta and I didn't play at all past Summer 2005, I was 16 in 2004 and had an amazing time with EQ2, much preferred it to WoW. I played EQ when I was 11, then SWG when I was 15 and the same with EVE and Planetside, I miss the MMOs I grew up with.