Question about Spell Durations

[John Adams]

I searched through the code, and I cannot identify anything that tells the LUA system what a spells "duration" is. Ie., a DOT that lasts 12 seconds. I know I can pass a param via spell_data, but that defeats the purpose behind the spell_tiers.duration* fields. I am hoping to set durations in only one place for all spell types.
For testing some new scripts, I will hard-code some durations... but I am asking/wondering, does the system magically know how long to loop a DOT (like it magically knows how to evaluate and subtract power requirements)?
Thanks

[LethalEncounter]

You shouldn't have to worry about telling the LUA script how long the effect will last. The first time the spell lands it will call the "cast" LUA function, after that it calls the "tick" LUA function if the spell lasts longer than 1 tick. The magical field you are looking for that determines the number of ticks that a spell lasts for is call_frequency. The way it works is this:
Your duration is 60 seconds. Because SOE uses tenths of a second, the value for BOTH duration1 and duration2 would be 600 (if they aren't even then the system thinks you meant a range and determines a random number in the range). Now this spell has an effect that it does at the beginning of the spell and then every tick it does another effect.
In the cast function you would put the effect that hits if the spell is effective. In the tick function you put the effect that hits every tick. The call_frequency tells the system how long each 'tick' is. Unlike the normal EQ system a tick does not have to be 6 seconds. The spell continues to call the tick function every tick until the duration is met.

[John Adams]

Hmm... I need to go kill some Super Mutants and think about this. It makes sense, sorta, but I'll have a few more questions tomorrow.
Thanks for the info.

[Scatman]

Yah that makes perfect sense.
So dots in everquest2 have an effect that hits only when it first lands and a second, seperate, effect every tick. So lets say the call_frequency is 2 seconds (meaning the dot ticks every 2 seconds), and duration1 and duration2 are 10 seconds, it will tick a maximum of 5 times PLUS do the initial effect.

[John Adams]

Ok, I think I got it. Let me use a real example and see if I understand correctly.
Assassin: Quick Strike (level 1)

Inflicts melee damage on target
Inflicts slashing damage on target every 4 seconds

So initial function cast() would land between 5-9 Melee damage, then for 12 seconds will do an additional 1 Slashing damage every 4 seconds. So my setup in spell_tiers would be:
duration1: 120
duration2: 120
call_frequency: 4
And the script would be:

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function cast(Caster, Target, DDType, MinDDVal, MaxDDVal, EffectType, MinEffectVal, MaxEffectVal)
	-- DD component
	damage = math.random(MinDDVal, MaxDDVal)
	SpellDamage(Target, DDType, damage)
	-- Effect (DOT) component
	if EffectType ~= nil then
		-- only process this code if there is an EffectType param passed (ie, dot, heal, siphon, etc)
		-- if there is more than 1 effect, use a more specific script
		EffectDamage = math.random(MinEffectVal, MaxEffectVal)
		SpellDamage(Target, EffectType, EffectDamage)
	end
end
function tick(Caster, Target, DDType, MinDDVal, MaxDDVal, EffectType, MinEffectVal, MaxEffectVal)
	EffectDamage = math.random(MinEffectVal, MaxEffectVal)
	SpellDamage(Target, EffectType, EffectDamage)
end

My 6 params are in spells_data in the order of the function() params: 0, 5, 9, 8, 1, 1.
Is this correct? I'm going to mess with this today, because I'd like to build a generic Damage.lua that handles most of our needs instead of having 12 dd/dot lua's like we originally planned.
Btw, we do not have a Melee Damage type in the emu. What should I use for Melee damage? Currently leaving as 0 (slashing).

[John Adams]

So dots in everquest2 have an effect that hits only when it first lands and a second, seperate, effect every tick.

Scatman, about this... if Quick Strike does melee and disease damage, are you saying the Disease (DOT) component does NOT land on the initial strike, and THEN every 4 seconds for 12 seconds (so only 2 land and not 3)?
I thought the effects landed with the initial strike, and ALSO landed every tick for the duration. If this is wrong, I will remove the Effect (DOT) component from cast() and leave it only in Tick.
One more LE question
What determines if the DOT lands or not? Like resistance and such. My DOT will hit once, then on the next tick may be resisted and do no damage? Is that handled in the SpellDamage() function?

[Scatman]

Scatman, about this... if Quick Strike does melee and disease damage, are you saying the Disease (DOT) component does NOT land on the initial strike, and THEN every 4 seconds for 12 seconds (so only 2 land and not 3)?
I thought the effects landed with the initial strike, and ALSO landed every tick for the duration. If this is wrong, I will remove the Effect (DOT) component from cast() and leave it only in Tick.

No you're right it does. But I'm not sure exactly when the tick() function is first called. If tick() is called also when cast() is called then there is no reason for having the DOT effect also in the cast() function.

[John Adams]

Ok, apparently call_frequency is also 10ths of a second hehe. At first, I was getting BAM BAM BAM disease flying out my blade killing anything in my way. Bumped that sucker to 40, and now the tick timer appears to be working as designed.
Awesome! This is very exciting. Spells may be coming to Tess soon!
Scat, here is the results of my test:

(1228334821)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:01 2008] YOUR Quick Strike hits an elk calf for 9 slashing damage.
(1228334821)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:01 2008] YOUR Quick Strike hits an elk calf for 1 disease damage.
(1228334821)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:01 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 3 crushing damage.
(1228334824)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:04 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 2 crushing damage.
(1228334825)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:05 2008] YOUR Quick Strike hits an elk calf for 1 disease damage.
(1228334826)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:06 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 4 crushing damage.
(1228334828)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:08 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 3 crushing damage.
(1228334829)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:09 2008] YOUR Quick Strike hits an elk calf for 1 disease damage.
(1228334829)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:09 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 3 crushing damage.
(1228334831)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:11 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 3 crushing damage.
(1228334834)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:14 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 2 crushing damage.
(1228334836)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:16 2008] an elk calf tries to crush YOU, but YOU deflect.
(1228334838)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:18 2008] an elk calf hits YOU for 4 crushing damage.
(1228334839)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:19 2008] an elk calf tries to crush YOU, but YOU deflect.
(1228334841)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:21 2008] an elk calf tries to crush YOU, but YOU deflect.
(1228334843)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:23 2008] You gain experience!
(1228334843)[Wed Dec 03 13:07:23 2008] You have killed an elk calf.

As you can see, the initial slashing strike + disease DOT in the first strike. Then, 2 more disease DOTs after which is exactly what I expected.

[Scatman]

Cool. I left my damn external HD at my parent's house which has my eq2emu directory on there. I really want to hop on and help you test this but I'm hesitant to patch my live eq folder. I guess I should buy TSO first . I'll do that now. It better be on direct download!

[Scatman]

Ya that looks perfect. So I'm assuming tick() is not also cast at 0 seconds?

[John Adams]

I do not think it is, since I put the first "tick" of the DOT in with the cast(), I do not see 2 disease DOTs in the same instance. So I think tick() is only called after the first call_frequency?

[John Adams]

but I'm hesitant to patch my live eq folder.

Current client 5280L is locked out of the loginserver til LE bumps it. Pretty sure it'll still be compatible. You can always do what I do - have a live EQ2 and a EQ2Emu client folder, and use a tool like SynchronizeIT! to see what the differences are - then only back up the files about to be changed. Usually SOE only patches vpk's and Everquest2.exe, which should be small enough to keep an archive of. That way if it doesn't work, copy your backed up files back and you're still in business!

[LethalEncounter]

Seems like you got it worked out

[alfa]

Some spells have one more value like the example of John

Inflicts melee damage on target
Inflicts slashing damage on target every 4 seconds
At end Inflicts slashing damage on target

There is a way to call a function like "final tick"

[John Adams]

We do have a function remove() for spells, I wonder if that can be used as the final blow? Or if that only works on buffs/debuffs?