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the "Creating Entities" problem

Post by John Adams » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:00 am

I too am now getting stuck quite often at "creating entities", and here is my analysis.
I have spawned a number of zones, and took one of my toons on a tour to see what the NPCs look like. At first, I was zoning around with no problems. Then suddenly, nearly every other /zone command caused the client to crash - every time.
Between attempts, I have been cleaning up all cache and files created since I installed RoK, so it is essentially a clean install every time.
Now, the same account I had been using for hours last night, cannot get to the character select screen. Stuck at "creating entities". I have reports from other players at my server of the same thing - cannot get passed this point.
With my server attached to the LS, I either get stuck, or get a crash. I took down my server, deleted my logincache files. Tried to log in, and I get prompted to create a new char. I will Exit, because I do not want another char - load my EQ2 server up again, and get immediately stuck at Creating Entities again.
I even tried deleting the only character on the offending account (#150), and I still cannot get passed Creating Entities unless my server is offline.
I can log in with a second account, and it's fine. In fact, as I type this, I see someone on my server now... so it's not the World, I do not think - but something with the LS, or the account stored out of my control? I can't imagine this has anything to do with what I have spawned in my world, but please advise what my next step should be. My account (and many others) are completely locked out of my server now. :(

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Post by LethalEncounter » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:50 pm

The getting stuck on creating entities part is and always has been caused by the client sending the crash log files to the Login server. Unfortunately, the underlying protocols that we use for both Login and World needs a serious rewrite to fix the problem for good. I have been putting it off because it will take quite a bit of my time and I would rather work on getting the basic features of the game to work. I had made some changes to Login that seemed to fix the problem for the short term, but I guess it is broken again. I had hoped to avoid making such a drastic change to the net code until the emu was a little farther along but it looks like it will continue to be a thorn in my side if I don't, fix it now. I'll work on rewriting all of it hopefully by this weekend.
In the mean time, to fix the bug you're experiencing, delete all the crash log files from your client directory before you login to the Login server.

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Post by John Adams » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:46 pm

Aye, I'm sorry to pull you away from the core functionality, but the more people that come around trying out our "alpha", the more this seems to be happening. FWIW, I did read a previous post about deleting crash logs and cache. Mine are deleted, between each client launch (I run my launch from a bat file that nukes everything changed since install :)) and I still cannot get that account 150 to log in to char select.
If there's *anything* I can do to help, let me know. I got a 100% reproducable account. I don't see it hitting my world.exe at all though, which baffles me why that account starts up fine with my world offline... /boggle

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Post by Zcoretri » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:40 pm

I get stuck at creating entities every time now, doesn't matter what client i'm using...fresh install or not.
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Post by LethalEncounter » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:57 pm

Can you guys try again? Login is running off my new net code.

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Post by ichijin » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:17 pm

As of right before this posting, I updated from SVN, compiled, and tried to log in.
My admin account for my server:
Stuck at "creating entities".
Edit:
My 'regular player':
seems to work now, just bad patch somehow. :P (Client crashes on load)

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Post by LethalEncounter » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:45 am

So it is not pausing at the loading entities screen? Btw the new netcode isn't on public svn yet. I was only talking about the Login issue. If you still have problems with it on Login please let me know.

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Post by John Adams » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:13 am

My accountid 150 has 2 behaviors:
1) When I compile my own SVN (rev 20), the client crashes before it even seens "creating entities". That account is completely doomed.
2) When I used the 0.4 release binaries, I still pause at the "creating entities" screen. And it will sit there for 12 hours if I leave it... usually have to /kill the client process to start again.
All *crash* logs are cleared between attempts.
My second account can still log in either way without a problem. Just this one account is in this condition right now.
Edit: FWIW, after that last "creating entities" lock up, the Login server appearst to be gone for me. Trying server #1, etc...

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Post by ichijin » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:46 pm

Update:
Got the DVD Ver of Kunark, 4412. Nuked everything and did a fresh install from that.
Results:
Admin account: Stuck at "creating entities"
Player account: Logged in just fine.
It seems like something to do with privlevel, will need to play with the code some to be sure.
Edit:
On a side note, this server (which player logged in ok on) is compiled using VS2005 (latest SVN). Were the issues resolved with that, or did I just get lucky? Heh.

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Post by twintear » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:49 pm

I got same issue too.
Stop at "creating entities" screen.
I was used 0.4 release version (Precomplier)
tried 3 account for client and clear all log file before i login emu
Client Version : Rok(4412L)
and got 2 problem:
1. pause at "creating entities" screen.
2. after "creating entities" then EQ2 Client closed game window and nothing happend.
Does it normal?

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Post by John Adams » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:13 pm

ichijin wrote:It seems like something to do with privlevel, will need to play with the code some to be sure.
Nah, this is probably coincidence, since all my accounts are status = 0. Plus, I am pretty sure there is no use for the account_status field yet. It's checked in LoginServer.cpp, but I don't see it relating to anything else yet.

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Post by John Adams » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:45 pm

LE, somewhere else you mentioned that my "account 150" creating entities problem may be solve - I am sad to report it is not. That account still halts on Creating entities indefinitely *IF* my server is connected to the loginserver. If my server is offline, the client crashes (launches debugger, of which there is nothing to debug).
Sorry :(

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Post by LethalEncounter » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:31 pm

Could you try again? Had some issues with Login earlier. If it is still a problem let me know and leave your server up. I'll try to move your character to my account and try to see what the problem is.

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Post by John Adams » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:43 pm

Yes sir, still stuck. The server is up (TessEQ2).

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Post by LethalEncounter » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:47 pm

KK, moving the characters to my account didn't cause the problem so I ended up commandeering your account :)
I see the problem and will let you know when I have fixed the problem (and released your account).

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